If men were objectified too (part 3)

 EDIT 27th June: It has com to my attention that I do not mean what I thought I did by the title of this blog post.  What I really mean, is 'If men were objectifed in the same manner women are'.  Apologies for offence caused by the misleading words.  It never hurts to be too specific, and in future I shall try to explain myself better.

There are still far too many female characters more concerned with showing- off ass, rather than kicking it.

 Quote from Megan Rosalarian Gedris, December 201o

I have previously written and linked to posts concerning the concept of what would men in comics would like if they were objectified in the same way that women were.  Well another post has been written, by the lady quoted above.  I urge you to go read it, and to tempt you, I would like to share some images from it:

See the problem?  So why do we have art like this being produced:

Harly Quinn is an acrobat.  Now unless the DCnU has changed her abilities and she no longer cavorts about, that has to be one of the most inappropriate costumes I've ever seen.

It is really diffiuclt for comic artists to draw appropriate clothes on their fictional creations?  I mean, learning how gravity and spines work would be nice.  Learning how men bulge in spandex would also be nice, for example:

He's a ballet dancer.
Or you could look at male gymnasts.  On that note, to draw women, look at female gymnasts.  Hell, if you want to draw sexy women take a gander at the thousands of female cosplayers out there.  See how the clothes sit.  Pay attention to how they've achieved certain effects.  Note how the breasts and bellies work (and please, have the intelligence to differentiate between cosplaying at a con and doing a porn shoot).   I'm not saying don't stylise any your art.  Amanda Connor and Ale Garza draw cartoony art and I love them.  But please, respect your creations and respect your audience.

If men were objectified too (NSFW)

In my last post I mentioned that I'd found a delightful underwear catalogue for men. It's not quite an underwear catalogue but still serves my point. Oh and it's real. Visit the website here.
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What the fuck? They look ridiculous, both the men and the pants. Yet it's a pretty accurate conversion of a lot of women's pants to the male equivalent. And the female equivalent is accepted as normal.
If men were really objectified (in the mainstream comics) to the same extent that women are, they'd be wearing stuff like that. And posed in a similar fashion.

Esme Dodderidge's The New Gulliver looked at the role of women's clothes and their purposes in a western (American) culture. It's a pretty good women's press book about a bloke finding himself in a matriarchal world, and matriarchal in the same way we currently live in a patriarchal one. All of women's and men's role and assumptions and privilege is swapped.

Still listening to Geneva - Further It really is a supremely well crafted album. If they had been around 5 to 1o years later, so 2002/2003, they would probably have been huge. As it is they got swallowed by the Britpop cheeky monkey music and weren't. Far far better than Gene ever were. I must try to track down the second album now.

I have updated my link list

And have included links to some people who comment here..please let me know if you don't want to be linked. More will be going up over the next week.

All links are going fine except for one which for some reason won't work, and I can't for the life of me figure out why not. The html code is the same as the other links so I can't figure out what's happeneing. Anyway the link is this. I urge everyone to go and have a peek. It's comics related but don't let that put you off.

I also am planning to post some more comics and comic movie reviews later - am off to see the Hulk this afternoon, hurrah!